
There’s a new Chief Technology Officer at Dubber! Introducing Steve Willson.
Fresh from his time as CTO of Great Southern Bank, Australia’s largest customer-owned bank, Steve Willson has joined Dubber to guide our industry-leading technology and key technical relationships.
With a long list of executive tech roles at some of Australia’s largest financial institutions, plus time in London fintechs, Willson strengthens Dubber’s position as a key player in conversational intelligence for every government and business.
The value in Dubber
Willson speaks about why he chose Dubber as his next move.
“I was attracted to the massive potential of Dubber’s technology to create value for clients globally. Recording is really just the tip of the iceberg; the greater opportunity is to leverage the data to help clients improve their businesses and customer experience.”
“As I see it, there are four key value levers businesses need to focus on moving forward from a technology perspective, and that Dubber already does across voice conversations:
- Radical improvements in productivity eliminating what I call busy work, which is preventing employees/business owners/agents from focusing on value-creating activities.
- Greater control, visibility and transparency – whether that be capturing knowledge, decisions or evidencing compliance.
- Differentiated products and experiences for your customers.
- Unification of conversational data so that it can be leveraged to provide insights and inform decisions”
The impact of Covid on technology as an accelerant
While Covid has caused significant hurdles for business and government worldwide, it has also rapidly accelerated digital transformation.
“At a macro level, I think that COVID has accelerated digital disruption rather than changed it, it has necessitated increased take-up of digital products and services and customers’ expectations of digital experiences are higher than ever.
Similarly, employees now expect (and need) advanced technology that makes it easy to work from anywhere.”
“This has created a push to many large (and usually slow) organisations to do things differently, such as responding to technical challenges in days, not weeks or months. It has also provided the means for businesses to break through cultural barriers that have prevented greater take up of these technologies in the past.”
“In the new normal – if we can call it that – ‘work’ is being done anywhere. This makes sharing, collaboration, productivity and clarity of conversations more than ever, with an office-home-remote hybrid work model likely for most businesses.”
“Dubber is – I think – a critical technology in underpinning our new way of working.”
End not knowing
“AI, NLP, machine learning and a raft of technologies are central to ending not knowing in every business and government. As data grows exponentially it’s not plausible or possible for humans to see the signals in the noise. Applying AI to unified data sets is going to be a crucial building block for the success of any enterprise activity – whether it’s knowing your customers and employees, complying, or improving the accuracy of supply chains.”
“The way Dubber is doing this is impressive, from disrupting the high-cost, siloed world or legacy call recording to harnessing its own AI advances alongside those of leaders like IBM, Amazon and others.”
“I’m passionate about the tech sector and have supported many fintech partnerships in my enterprise executive roles, so I’m excited about the opportunity to play a more active role in the Aussie and global tech community with Dubber. Joining what is the clear leader not just here, but also globally, is incredibly exciting.”
We’re excited to have Steve onboard.
3 Actions Compliance Leaders Must Take
For many, the rapid acceleration of digital transformation has made already challenging regulatory complexity even more difficult. New ways of communicating and ever-increasing digital transactions generate even greater data sets requiring surveillance and compliance monitoring.
Against this backdrop, compliance and surveillance leaders face a more familiar set of challenges – unravelling regulations, reducing costs and driving productivity. The answer – in part – doesn’t lay in yet another set of tools or applications but rather in establishing more robust data sets on which artificial intelligence, machine learning and natural language processing can surface new levels of intelligence.
Conversation data is not just necessary – in many cases, it’s a regulatory requirement.
The role of AI and Machine Learning
Instead of relying on human analysis of trends to try and spot aberrant behaviours, true AI solutions are needed to create proactive signals of risk – and accelerate time to data and insights.
33% of financial institutions are increasing their AI capability over the past year, and 57% deployed, piloting, or planning to deploy AI & Machine Learning solutions for AML over the next 12-18 months.
Underpinning this is a shift from surfacing insights based on what happened to using behavioural insights to understand what might happen next. As workforces have become dislocated from the workplace, managerial insight based on day-to-day interactions has become more difficult. Conversational intelligence can signal behavioral shifts enabling managers to engage, coach and guide employees to the right practices.
Today, knowing your employee is as important and knowing your customer.
Modernising GRC: 3 actions compliance leaders must take
1. Record every conversation, across all channels
It’s not enough to just record conversations on one application, when interactions between employees and customers are occurring across call centres, mobile, and chat.
What is required today is a single window into all conversations – a Unified Conversational Recording platform and, if you want it to scale without barriers, it needs to live in the cloud – all compliantly, with inbuilt data security.
For example, Don Anderson, chief information officer (CIO) at the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston, noted in 2019 that ignoring the cloud may even “introduce new security vulnerabilities as on-premises vendors discontinue support for their products.”
How you record is as important as what you record. Creating a comprehensive data set with rich conversational recordset to satisfy KYC and AML also has to be done in a way that satisfies GDRP and PCI.
2. Replay instantly when non-compliant calls come through
Can you capture non-compliance as it happens? With triggers on sentiment like an angry customer, or an alert that goes off when a representative mentions the word ‘cash’, you can quickly head off incidents before they escalate or wind up getting buried in an avalanche of data. This type of natural language processing is essential in modern compliance operations, where you are expected to be able to respond in real-time.
3. Reveal insights across the organisation
While every conversation has the potential to be powerful, or non-compliant – or hopefully just helpful and archivable – being able to glean not just individual Conversational Intelligence insights, but cumulative insights on this data will give key indicators on your organisational health.
For instance, you’ll be able to tell whether departments are sticking to their scripts. Whether staff are spending too long on certain topics that could be addressed by a knowledge base. If certain staff are bringing up topics again and again that seem out of the ordinary. There are infinite possibilities to mine the data for both proactive compliance and operational efficiency.
Beyond Compliance
Compliance and surveillance data sets are amongst the most trusted in any business – but they also can alleviate the pain felt across financial institutions.
KYC procedures are also straining relationships with customers; for instance, the time taken to bring a new client on board continues to increase. And employees are challenged to receive the same level of guidance, coaching and training that was once part of their daily interactions in the workplace.
Conversational data – recordings, insights and workflow automation provide a much needed answer for both. The big opportunity and key benefit is data quality, with multiple conversational sources contributing to a single, secure and compliant system of record.
“At a time when risk management leaders are being asked to process greater amounts of data in shorter amounts of time—often amid budget and staff constraints—cloud computing could unlock considerable benefits. It can help risk teams react rapidly to changes in the external environment and dive deeper into the analytics life cycle to better understand the drivers of risk, all without major capital expenditures.” – Mckinsey
Dubber’s Compliance Editions put compliance teams in front of the right content, data insights, and actions for conversations across the entire organisation. Take a look at how a Swiss Private Bank Identifies Rogue Operators & Compliance Breaches With Dubber, or talk to us about how we can help your compliance team become more effective with Dubber.
Make sure to join us and other industry leaders for the AML & KYC APAC Virtual Event on October 28, 2021, to learn about the latest AML & KYC developments and how to protect your organisation from criminals, mitigate risks, ensure compliance and accelerate your digital transformation.

September 29 is World Heart Day, a day dedicated to raising international awareness around the cause and prevention of Cardiovascular Diseases (CVD), a cause close to Dubber.
CVDs are the leading cause of death globally, resulting in an estimated 18.6 million deaths a year, and about 520 million people living with a CVD today. CVD affects the heart and blood vessels, resulting in coronary heart disease, cerebrovascular disease, rheumatic heart disease or other conditions.
As CVDs come in many forms, so do its causes – smoking, high blood pressure and high blood cholesterol are key risk factors for heart disease. Other medical conditions and lifestyle choices can also increase the risk of heart disease including; diabetes, overweight and obesity, unhealthy diet, excessive alcohol use, or air pollution.
Save a Child’s Heart & Dubber
For two years, Dubber has been a proud sponsor of Israeli humanitarian organisation, Save a Child’s Heart.
Save a Child’s Heart (SACH) is an international organisation that provides life-saving surgery to children suffering from heart disease from countries where access to pediatric care is limited or nonexistent. So, every day is World Heart Day with SACH.
For 25 years they’ve saved the lives of nearly 6000 children from 63 countries around the world. From these countries, 50% of the children come from the Palestinian Authority and Gaza, Iraq, and Morocco. More than 40% of the children are from Africa, and the remainder are from Asia, North and South America, and Eastern Europe.
SACH medical professionals
The ultimate goal for Save a Child’s Heart is to enable equal opportunity for life-saving surgery for children with CVD. One of SACH’s programs is taking on medical professionals from developing countries and providing them post-graduate training in all facets of pediatric cardiac care in order to provide sufficient treatment in their own communities.
SACH trained professional and Ethiopia’s first pediatric cardiac surgeon, Dr Yayu Mekonnen addressed Dubber in celebration of the organisation’s 25th anniversary.
Inspired by an experience that shaped his career, Dr Yayu shared an anecdote of why he became a pediatric cardiac surgeon and why he loves what he does.
“When you provide this procedure at the right time, you change the course of this child’s life forever. They will be normal kids and are able to do whatever they want in life now.” – Dr Yayu Mekonnen
Use heart to connect ❤️
As the world struggles to fight COVID-19, it’s put pressure on us to be cautious of our own health, as well as the safety of those around us. With this new wave of vigilance, World Heart Day’s theme is around Using a heart to connect.
At Dubber we can vouch for a more mobile and modernising way of connecting with people, especially through digital platforms and telehealth. Use heart to connect is about harnessing our knowledge and influence in order to spread accurate information about heart health to our communities and loved ones.
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Some ways you can use heart to connect:
- Share your story and commitment by sharing a poster online
- Take care of your body by eating healthily, not smoking, and exercising
- Share support and look out for our vulnerable communities
- Use technology to bridge gaps in our communities
- Don’t forget to use the hashtag #UseHeart
- Give the gift of hope by donating to Save a Child’s Heart organisation
All information published in this article is provided for general education and isn’t intended to replace expert medical advice from a registered healthcare professional.
Dubber does not accept any liability for any error or injury incurred by any person as a result of using this information published.

Where Dubber leads in capturing every call, video, and chat – then turning it into a source of value; Notiv has been pioneering the use of AI to make every meeting more productive and efficient.
So what does this mean for Dubber?
First, we gain an exciting and proven product built to answer a compelling use case – making meetings better. Notiv will help Dubber convert a higher proportion of our addressable market within our existing networks and new communications services that want this functionality on their networks.
Enhanced productivity can benefit everybody – however they are communicating and whatever the use case. For example, a tradesperson on a mobile phone could instantly capture customer requests and share the actions. Likewise, C-level executives could use Notiv to note and capture actions in a planning meeting.
Second, we can drive significant adoption of Notiv through our industry-leading base of partners and customers. Notiv is a compelling new service, enabling them to drive incremental revenue and differentiation. Notiv will also be a magnet for new service providers, increasing the value of our industry-first Foundation Partner program.
Third, Notiv will provide Dubber with a world-class team with deep expertise in AI and data science. Together we will accelerate our overall product roadmap and capabilities and advance our AI, digital signal processing and natural language processing technologies. Notiv furthers our leadership in capturing and transforming conversations between one person and another – and large groups of people in a meeting.
We are continuing to unlock the potential of AI on every end-point and enabling our service and solution providers to make the critical shift from selling connections to extracting the value in every conversation on their networks.
And they’ll now be able to do that with Dubber Notiv on the same hyper-secure, scaleable and compliant infrastructure that Dubber has made available in over 150 service providers globally – and all the worlds leading UC solutions.
I’ve been using Notiv for the past few months, and it’s impressive. It’s magical seeing the meeting being transcribed in real-time – and then having the ability to highlight important parts of the meeting.

Notiv brings AI-driven notetaking and action items to every call and meeting
Adds advanced technology capabilities in real-time transcription, artificial intelligence, and advanced natural language processing
Adds revenue generating service to existing and expanded Dubber customer base
Delivers product capabilities that enrich Dubber Foundation and broader service provider offering
Accelerates Dubber’s AI program and expands Dubber core offerings
Circa A$6.6m acquisition by way of cash and equity
Melbourne, Australia – 20 September 2021 — Dubber Corporation Limited (ASX: DUB) (Dubber) announces today that it has acquired Brisbane, Australia based technology group Notiv (https://www.notiv.com). Notiv is a developer of innovative cloud-native AI-based products that turn meetings into transcribed notes, summaries, signals, actions, and more.
Steve McGovern, CEO, Dubber:
“One of our fundamental beliefs is that artificial intelligence has a part to play as a standard feature of every call and conversation. Notiv is a significant step towards achieving this in that it has clear and defined use cases for everyone from individuals to the largest of enterprises. With Notiv, Dubber will now have the ability to automatically take notes and create action items on every call. We are confident that our telecommunications carrier and service provider partners will see enormous potential for revenue-generating value-added services for their customers at scale.
We welcome the Notiv team to Dubber along with the AI and data science expertise they bring. We see the teams combining to form the core of our Dubber AI Labs for developing future AI capabilities.
The integration of the Notiv business is accretive for both parties in that Dubber can expose the fantastic capability of the Notiv offering to a global customer base and the Notiv team can develop a continuous stream of revenue-generating services for Dubber’s addressable market.
Dubber’s overall strategy is to grow organic Annualised Recurring Revenue (ARR) while augmenting that growth with strategic acquisitions where possible. Acquisitions must either add accretive and synergistic revenue or provide substantial product and technology capability, which will drive organic ARR growth. The Notiv acquisition reflects that strategy perfectly, and the speed at which the parties have executed the transaction now enables the Company to continue to pursue other identified opportunities.”
Notiv will be available to Dubber Foundation Partners, select service and solution providers and sold alongside other Dubber solutions for businesses and Government.
Chris Raethke, Co-Founder & CEO, Notiv:
“The Notiv team is exceptionally proud of the technology we have developed. The ability to roll out Notiv globally with the world’s leading service providers is an unmissable opportunity. The chance to join the Dubber growth journey at this time and expand Dubber’s AI and NLP capabilities is exciting for all of us. We are confident that the combination of Dubber and Notiv will deliver incredible value to customers, businesses and our fellow shareholders alike.”
James Slaney, COO, Dubber:
“Dubber has over 150 global service provider network partners as well as all of the world’s primary unified communications solutions – and is the only true native, cloud-first service of its kind.
Our strategy has always been to use this footprint to deliver layers of value and drive associated revenues. Notiv suits this strategy perfectly and accelerates our existing AI program in three ways.
First, we gain an exciting and proven product built to answer a compelling use case – making meetings better by automatically enabling voice data to replace or improve note taking. We believe that the ability to create notes, highlights and action items in every video and phone call provides invaluable use cases for every demographic, from individuals to large enterprises, thereby expanding Dubber’s already large addressable market. Enhanced productivity can benefit everybody in all methods of communication. For example, a tradesperson on a mobile phone call could instantly capture customer requests and share the actions. Likewise, C-level executives could use Notiv to note and capture actions in a planning meeting.
Second, we believe that the ability to deliver this capability directly from the network will be a compelling proposition for both existing and new service provider partners. As well as the opportunity for service providers to drive new services, incremental revenue and differentiation, we believe that Notiv is an ideal product to increase the value of our industry-first Foundation Partner program.
Finally, Notiv will provide Dubber with a world-class team with deep expertise in AI and data science. Together we will accelerate our overall product roadmap and capabilities and advance our AI, digital signal processing and natural language processing technologies. Notiv furthers our leadership in capturing and transforming conversations between one person and another – and large groups of people in a meeting.
We are continuing to unlock the potential of AI on every end-point and enabling our service and solution providers to make the critical shift from selling connectivity to extracting the value in every conversation on their networks. They’ll now be able to do that with Dubber Notiv on the same hyper-secure, scalable and compliant infrastructure that Dubber has already made available to over 150 service providers globally – including all the world’s leading UC solutions.”
Key Transaction Terms:
Dubber has acquired Notiv through the purchase of all of the issued share capital of holding company Pinch Labs, Inc., a US corporation that wholly owns and operates the Brisbane-based operations and technology
Aggregate consideration of approximately A$6.6 million
A$5.15 million paid in cash at completion and the balance, representing 24.8% of the consideration, is to be satisfied by way of the issue of 386,277 Dubber fully paid ordinary shares at a deemed issued price of A$3.75. The shares will be issued within Dubber’s existing Listing Rule 7.1 issue capacity
Key management and employees are to stay with the business, including Chris Raethke, Co-Founder & CEO and Dr Iain McCowan, Co-Founder and CTO
The agreement also includes provisions customary for a transaction of this nature, including warranties and representations, confidentiality and non-competition/solicitation
Strategic Rationale
Accretive fundamentals. Proven application and technology with customers with strong product-market fit and alignment to the Dubber solution set
Enriches Dubber’s service and solution provider offering – and current product offerings. Accelerates Dubber’s technology roadmap both in terms of providing Dubber with access to AI technologies and also adding a critical and differentiated product
Furthers differentiation and value of Dubber Foundation Partner Program – and its more than 150 service and solution provider customers worldwide
Broadens Dubber’s conversational intelligence offerings
Dubber to accelerate the adoption of Notiv globally. Provides Notiv with critical sales and marketing resources to scale go-to-market capabilities
Strong synergies in product approach mean technologies can be easily unified into common platforms with the potential to create efficiencies over time
Key shareholder support. All key management shareholders retained in the business with incentives to continue strong performance
Financial Impact
Scrip and cash consideration up-front. No further amounts payable
No incremental investment in staff or technology required to achieve scaling
Strong potential to enhance future revenue (or stated revenue), typical of an early-stage technology venture
This ASX announcement has been approved for release to ASX by Steve McGovern, CEO & Managing Director.

Fewer wasted trips for NT Recycling Solutions trucks with Dubber
“Our business is based on time, so mistakes are costly”
NT Recycling Solutions saves $50,000 per year using Dubber’s call recording to resolve client disputes over services ordered and staff training to reduce errors in bookings.
Here’s the backstory
NT Recycling Solutions is a waste management and recycling business in the Australian Northern Territory city of Darwin. The business deals in general waste removal and operates a recycling facility to reduce the amount going to landfill.
The company has three staff who take inbound calls. Regular customers who don’t have a scheduled service call the company and book when they need their waste bins emptied. Causal customers can call to order bins and the company’s drivers make contact with the office when there are issues with jobs.
Being able to record calls helps quickly resolve customer disputes and staff booking errors. These were costing NTRS thousands of dollars and causing inefficiencies with drivers schedules.
The Solution
NTRS uses Telstra Calling for Office 365 (based on Microsoft Teams) for all its calls. It uses Dubber Unified Call Recording to record and capture calls. In tandem, NTRS uses Dubber’s CallN reporting for additional insights into call statistics. This can include knowing which team member takes the most calls and what time of day those calls come in.
Different departments within the business including customer service, sales, and administration can all easily review calls and reports on Dubber.
Dubber’s recent partnership with Microsoft together with Dubber’s rich functionality were central to giving NTRS the right solution.
NTRS was operating a traditional on premises phone system, using CallN for recording. When it moved to Telstra Calling for Office 365, Dubber was able to craft a unique solution that delivered Dubber’s backend recording while maintaining the familiar CallN interface at the front end.
The Benefits
Speedy dispute resolution
General Manager, Dean Caton says NTRS mainly uses Dubber to verify orders placed by customers. “A customer will ring the office and say I asked for this service: ‘I need your driver to come back right now and do this for us’.”
This can be disruptive and expensive. By the time the call comes in the driver might be 40 minutes away. Revisiting pick-ups was costing NTRS more than $1000 a week.
When this happens, the staff member can check the call recording and listen to the request. Caton says at this point the customer might change their story — if they still want the driver to return, they will have to pay for it.
This was a huge problem in the past, but Caton says now that customers know their calls are recorded, they are less likely to make these claims.
Staff training and reduction of costly errors
Another Dubber benefit for NTRS is staff training and reducing booking errors.
The business depends on efficient scheduling, so mistakes and booking errors are costly.
“All our business is based on time, so if we’re going back to sites we’ve already been to, that costs us a lot of time and we don’t get the productivity out of our drivers”.
Caton says it is useful for training, especially when a new team member joins to be able to go through a recording if, say, they made a booking error.
“We can say that you should have asked this question. A number of our customers have different types of bins at their site. If they ring and say they want their bin emptied, we want our customer service person to ask the right question to find out which bin needs to be collected.”
Not all trucks can collect all bins, so getting this right is another cost saving because they don’t have to divert trucks from other locations to service the job correctly.

Soma improved customer experience using Dubber call recording and voice AI to track conversations across a dispersed workforce.
Here’s the backstory
Australian managed IT services provider soma technology group uses Dubber to record all incoming and outgoing client calls, internal calls and meetings.
The business’s headquarters is on the Gold Coast in Queensland and there are offices in Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne and Perth, with a large number of staff working remotely.
Soma provides technical phone support to small to medium-sized organisations. It also runs a consulting practice that handles audits, implementations and other IT functions.
COO Aaron Prout says: “As a managed service provider we are a customer service business. It’s important our clients receive the support they need. It’s also very important that everything we do is traceable with checks and balances through all our systems”
Soma’s previous phone and recording solution was difficult to use and therefore staff were avoiding it and using their mobiles instead. And it was impossible to record calls made by the remote workforce. This meant that a large number of customer service calls weren’t being recorded for evidence or monitored for quality assurance.
The Dubber solution
Soma chose Dubber’s call recording and voice AI solution combined with Telstra Calling for Office 365, based on Microsoft Teams, as its voice system. “We wouldn’t have moved to Teams Calling if it wasn’t for Dubber”.
“The Dubber and Microsoft Teams solution is much better than the previous one. Now everyone is using it across the whole company”
Before, when they wanted to review a conversation they would have to go through all the MP3 files and listen to the entire call – and there was no search function.
With Dubber, they can search for calls easily using the google-like search function and quickly skip through the call to the relevant section. “It’s a lot faster to find what we’re looking for”.
What are the results?
Effective staff training for customer service performance
When soma gets negative customer feedback, either from a survey or through direct communication, managers listen to the conversation. This gives them an opportunity to guide staff on how they can improve.
“Dubber ticks a lot of boxes for us. We use it in a variety of areas. We use it for team education, we can go back and look at some of the calls our staff make. We make sure they’re following our phone support processes, that they are using the right communication style and that they have an understanding of the products they are selling. It’s all about giving good customer service”.
Better customer satisfaction
Soma uses Dubber to improve client satisfaction. If there is any negative feedback in post-customer service call surveys, they can listen to the conversation and quickly identify the issue.
Now with Dubber, the weekly satisfaction survey results never go below 4.5 out of 5 “This is 100 percent because of call recording”.
Dubber also helps fill in the gaps when a client doesn’t complete a survey. Not every unhappy customer provides feedback. soma uses the AI sentiment analysis tool to quickly highlight and identify those customers.
“Dubber’s AI sentiment analysis means we can learn if the clients are getting frustrated and if someone needs to dive in and take a closer look at that. It may be that we need to get in contact with them and have a conversation before the relationship goes south. We didn’t have the ability to do this before Dubber.”
Visibility of remote workers conversations
Staff throughout the country field incoming calls. Now with Dubber, all calls can be recorded regardless of location. This was especially useful during the Covid-19 lockdown when all employees worked from home.
Before Dubber and Telstra Calling for Office 365, this level of universality wasn’t possible. Originally the business was only able to record calls at the head office.
Prout says: “Our systems are set up so the call flows mean any of our guys can work from wherever they are with access to Microsoft Teams and into our systems.
“We use Dubber for the call recording and it captures everything whether people are on a mobile, an office phone or on Teams. We use it for all our support.”
Traceability of crucial conversations
Soma also uses call recording to monitor discussions over new business proposals. It means everything is detailed and captured to prevent any disputes over what was agreed.
“It stops there being any arguments about what we said and it covers us from a legal standpoint as well”.
Thousands of dollars saved
Moving to Dubber and Telstra Calling for Office 365 has meant significant cost savings for soma – about $30,000 per year – by eliminating costly hardware and maintenance costs and reducing expensive license fees.
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Virtual oversight can help finance companies preparing for the Australian Securities and Investments Commission’s Regulatory Guide 271 which comes into effect on October 5.
RG 271 explains what finance companies must do to create an internal dispute resolution system that ticks all the regulatory boxes. It is part of a suite of regulatory changes happening in October. Elsewhere we look at Anti-Hawking regulations.
What are the requirements?
DLA Piper partner Sophie Devitt says the new rules aim to see that every customer of the financial services industry is able to get “fair, timely and effective dispute resolution”. This covers consumers and small businesses.
“Part of this means capturing any expression of dissatisfaction from customers where there is a reasonable expectation that a response or resolution is expected.”.
There’s no need to trawl the internet for evidence of dissatisfaction. Yet there is an expectation that should something show up on a company’s Twitter feed or Facebook page then the company will respond to the complaint.
Likewise, if a company representative hears a verbal complaint, that also has to be acknowledged and given a response.
The company needs to let the complainer know staff have registered their grievance and will get back with a formal response. The idea is that the incoming communications channel is the best outgoing channel, so a complaint voiced on, say Facebook will get a notification on Facebook.
Devitt says dealing with disputes can get challenging with the required timeframes and the manner in which the complaint arrives. A complaint has to be documented and acknowledged within 24 hours, and in most cases, a substantive response is needed in 30 days. This can be challenging when complaints are received by staff who are not sitting behind desks, say, an insurance assessor working in the field.
Demonstrate compliance
Devitt says the industry has had more than 12 months to prepare. Which means by now their plans are likely to be well advanced.
She says; “They need to think about how they can meet their obligations. It means putting the right structures in place, setting up internal processes and deciding on the frequency of reviewing the processes. There is a reporting requirement.”
“You have to demonstrate to the regulator through your reporting and data collection how you are going to comply. Producing the data is now a significant element of compliance.’
Speed and clarity is the essence
The key is getting the complaint into the system as fast as possible, wherever it comes from. And then making sure the key people are alerted immediately.
Data collection is essential. Companies need to classify complaints for later analysis to help identify problem areas, it could be the customer service department or the nature of transactions.
‘Expression of dissatisfaction’ is a broad term. Devitt says lawyers are working with clients on how to do this; a good starting place would be to look at customer expectations and whether they are being met. This can also mean work for companies on setting those expectations.
Call recording, AI – a digital backstop
All of this puts obligations on teams to monitor every customer interaction across every channel. Virtual oversight is using unified call recording and AI technology to provide an extra layer of support to teams looking for potential complaints.
There’s always a possibility companies will miss ‘expressions of dissatisfaction, especially during conversations. For companies using modern call recording technologies, AI has the potential to scan calls looking for, say, a tone of voice or keywords. It can then point out potential problems.
Unified call recording and AI technologies can also automatically alert the right people when a customer is unhappy. It can feed that data into existing IDR processes and workflows to ensure fast responses. Conversational data can also be integrated into reporting data sets – vital to meet ASIC’s expectations on data.
Sophie Devitt is a partner with DLA Piper. She works from the global law firm’s Brisbane office and specializes in insurance regulatory law, which has wider application across the entire finance sector.

From October, Australian insurers and financial institutions must comply with new anti-hawking and internal dispute resolution regulations.
Both sets of rule changes add to compliance risks and highlight the need for reliable, comprehensive call recording. Here we look at the implications of new anti-hawking rules, a second post will examine the internal dispute resolution requirements.
Anti-hawking legislation
Anti-hawking means that offers of financial products to retail clients can no longer be made as a result of unsolicited contact. In effect, it is the end of unsolicited cross-selling.
DLA Piper partner Sophie Devitt says the law addresses concerns raised in the Banking Royal Commission that poor customer outcomes may occur when sales of financial products occur after-sales teams contact customers without any prompting.
She says; “A concern raised by ASIC is that unsolicited contact means there’s a risk customers will be unable to make clear and informed decisions about the products they may or may not want.
“While that’s the main focus of the new law, there’s also recognition that even when a customer contacts the financial service provider in relation to a specific product, that the risk could still occur.”
In the past, general insurance products were exempted from the hawking provisions. They were able to cross-sell so long as they could meet certain requirements and provide key information to consumers. That exemption has gone.
Clear informed consent
Now the regulatory environment is all about having “clear, informed consent” even before creating an opportunity for a consumer to buy a product. The idea is to reduce the pressure on consumers to buy, even when there is a cooling-off period.
Many finance companies have traditionally used call centres for cold-calling to handle these sales. Under the new rules, accurate and complete call recording becomes a compliance must-have.
Devitt says the rules can be tricky to navigate.
How can call recording and voice AI help?
Dubber call recording can collect and document evidence of a clear customer request to buy further insurance or financial products. It’s unobtrusive, the recording takes place at the network level and needs no intervention by the person taking the call. Transcripts are available on every call.
Voice AI provides critical insights to flag potential compliance risks and for staff training to ensure compliant conversations. Automated alerts and notifications can surface conversations that shouldn’t have happened but did happen. In addition, the powerful Google-like search in voice AI provides access to records for investigations and training in seconds.
Sophie Devitt is a partner with DLA Piper. She works from the global law firm’s Brisbane office and specializes in insurance regulatory law, which has wider application across the entire finance sector.

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For a limited time, all Webex Meetings Dubber Premier subscription plans get video add-on pack free for 6 months
Melbourne, Australia and Dallas, Texas – 19 August 2021 — Dubber Corporation Limited (ASX: DUB) (Dubber), today announced that it has launched compliant video capture to its cloud call recording and voice AI services for Cisco Webex Meetings. Dubber personal and confidential call recording is embedded as a standard feature for Cisco Webex Calling and Cisco Unified Communications Manager Cloud (UCM).
Businesses and individual users with compliance and regulatory requirements to record and store their communications can now securely capture every call, and video conversations including, one to one video calls and multi-party video conferences on the Cisco Webex Meeting platform via Dubber.
For an add-on price of $25 (USD) per user/month, the Dubber platform now enables video recordings with instant insights, analytics, transcriptions, sentiment analysis with Voice-AI powered alerts and notifications all stored in the Voice Intelligence Cloud. The Video add-on pack comes with 100GB storage as standard for each user. In addition, for power users who need augmented storage, businesses can purchase the Video Storage add-on, which comes in 1TB packs for only $100 (USD) per account/month.
“Video has become a primary communications medium for every business,” James Slaney, COO, Dubber. “With the release of compliant and secure video recording options for Webex meetings we’re enabling video to be captured, reviewed and intelligence generated alongside call records.”
“We’re answering the need to address compliance mandates in a work from anywhere world with advanced functionality, secure ease of access and economically scalable storage. There are equally important opportunities for business and government to improve employee coaching and productivity, resolve customer disputes with ease, and automatically generate real-time customer and employee satisfaction data,” added Slaney.
Background: Dubber Video Capture on Cisco Webex Meetings
- Available to all Cisco Webex Meetings customers
- Available for order now from Cisco, Cisco Partners and registered Dubber resellers on CCW
- Dubber cloud call recording now captures and unifies all voice and video data
- Flexible and affordable plan options start as low as $39.95 (USD) per user/month, which includes Video add-on pack with up to 100GB video storage per user
- Video storage add-on pack (1TB) in the Voice Intelligence Cloud available for users and accounts with expanded storage needs. Video Storage add-on packs start at 1TB storage for $100 (USD) per month for an account
- Additional Dubber compliance, storage, transcription and AI plans are available immediately
- Access more information here.
- Access Dubber on Webex Meetings via Cisco AppHub
Background: Cisco Webex Meetings
Cisco® Webex Meetings delivers over 25 billion meetings per month, offering industry-leading video and audio conferencing with sharing, chat, and more.
About Dubber:
Dubber is unlocking the potential of voice data from any call or conversation. Dubber is the world’s most scalable Unified Call Recording service and Voice Intelligence Cloud adopted as core network infrastructure by multiple global leading telecommunications carriers in North America, Europe and Asia Pacific. Dubber allows service providers to offer call recording for compliance, business intelligence, sentiment analysis, AI and more on any phone. Dubber is a disruptive innovator in the multi-billion dollar call recording industry, its Software as a Service offering removes the need for on-premise hardware, applications or costly and limited storage.
For more information, please contact:
Investors: Simon Hinsley UK Media: James Taylor | The PR Network
simon.hinsley@dubber.net james.taylor@thepr.network
+61 (0) 401 809 653 +44 (0)7796 138291
AU & NZ Media: Terry Alberstein US Media: Charlie Guyer, Guyer Group for Dubber
terry@navigatecommunication.com.au charlie@guyergroup.com
+61 (0) 458 484 921 +1 617 599 8830